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Old 04-23-2004, 06:02 AM
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In September of last year, I sent you an e-mail commenting on Hedy Lamarr's picture on your website. You were very prompt about responding to my message and I appreciate that. I've noticed that you have a lot of material about Roy Masters and the FHU. I assume that you must have had some connection with them at one time or another to know so many details about them and about Roy's sons. I do have one of his tapes, "Be Still and Know" and his book titled "How Your Mind Can Keep You Well" and I have listened to his radio program from time to time although it doesn't come in very well where I live here in Maine.

His broadcast is only heard on AM radio so I am not always able to hear it very well. I have been doing the meditation since last summer on a daily basis but I have not ordered any other books or materials. I don't quite know what to make of your "take" on the FHU but it sounds as though you don't particularly like them although I might misunderstand your intentions as your book, "The Advent of Dionysus" must be fictional and I don't know if your intent was to put the FHU in a "bad light." I haven't read your book except for reading your comments about Roy Masters and the FHU.

I happened to note one comment about Roy Masters and I did a search within the document to find other related material about the Foundation. Anyway, whatever reason(s) you may have for including the Foundation in your book, it is very brilliantly written whether or not I agree with any of the material. I haven't been familiar with the FHU for a very long time and I've heard more negative comments than positive ones but I'm still doing the meditation exercise and I can't say for sure whether it's helping me or not but I'm sticking to it (at least for now).
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Old 04-23-2004, 12:51 PM
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Hi Pegasus, Long time no see!

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In September of last year, I sent you an e-mail commenting on Hedy Lamarr's picture on your website. You were very prompt about responding to my message and I appreciate that. I've noticed that you have a lot of material about Roy Masters and the FHU. I assume that you must have had some connection with them at one time or another to know so many details about them and about Roy's sons. I do have one of his tapes, "Be Still and Know" and his book titled "How Your Mind Can Keep You Well" and I have listened to his radio program from time to time although it doesn't come in very well here I live here in Maine.
Well I think the one chapter in my book which is most revelatory about Roy Masters is chapter 9, which concerns Chief Joseph. In fact this is why I wrote it, because it shows that I'm not fooling around, and that there was some greater hand involved here other than my own. In other words I didn't write it just to try and get back at Roy.

While here Roy is one of those people who believes emotions are not particularly healthy for us, and are literally the means by which people are led astray. And, while I can agree with this up to a point, especially when one doesn't live the life of truth, emotions are by no means inherently evil, so long as they're lived within a life of context (truth). And yes, people can be unduly influenced through their emotions. It happens all the time.

So in many respects Roy's continued assault against emotionalism, primarily the forcefulness of the bully, and the seductiveness of the temptress (representations of love and hate), portray the United States government and its all out campaign against the American Indian who, were nothing but wild savages (emotionalism), compared to us civilized folk (rationalism). Whereas if you were to read the chapter, you might be able to draw that comparison.

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His broadcast is only heard on AM radio so I am not always able to hear it very well. I have been doing the meditation since last summer on a daily basis but I have not ordered any other books or materials. I don't quite know what to make of your "take" on the FHU but it sounds as though you don't particularly like them although I might misunderstand your intentions as your book, "The Advent of Dionysus" must be fictional and I don't know if your intent was to put the FHU in a "bad light." I haven't read your book except for reading your comments about Roy Masters and the FHU.
What do you mean by fictional? In the sense that I've blended in mythology as a means to express certain events which actually took place? Or, that I made the whole thing up to make it sound like a myth, to express a certain reality about Roy? For I can assure you I haven't fabricated any of it, and only chose to express it according to Dionysus, because this is what I had actually discovered. This is how I think the book should ultimately be judged anyway if, in fact that were ever to happen. While it also goes a long way to show why I've compared Roy Masters to King Minos of Crete.

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I happened to note one comment about Roy Masters and I did a search within the document to find other related material about the Foundation. Anyway, whatever reason(s) you may have for including the Foundation in your book, it is very brilliantly written whether or not I agree with any of the material. I haven't been familiar with the FHU for a very long time and I've heard more negative comments than positive ones but I'm still doing the meditation exercise and I can't say for sure whether it's helping me or not but I'm sticking to it (at least for now).
Well I appreciate the compliment, but I was merely trying to find the best way to present it, and make it understandable for others as well.

As for the meditation, I think we should try dealing with that in another thread, Okay? Thanks!
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Old 04-26-2004, 02:37 PM
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Hi Iacchus,

There were so many unusual details about Roy Masters and the FHU that it almost read like a Stephen King novel. I admit that I have been unable to read your on-line book in its entirety as I do not have a computer at home. I'm limited to the minimal amount of time I can spend on the internet at work when I'm not too busy. When I say unusual, I'm referring to your references to the wasps and many other things that seem to escape my memory at the moment. It was, shall I say, "scary" for want of a better word. I know people say that real life is stranger than fiction and I guess it's true. Are the details about the wasps true?





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Hi Pegasus, Long time no see!


Well I think the one chapter in my book which is most revelatory about Roy Masters is chapter 9, which concerns Chief Joseph. In fact this is why I wrote it, because it shows that I'm not fooling around, and that there was some greater hand involved here other than my own. In other words I didn't write it just to try and get back at Roy.

While here Roy is one of those people who believes emotions are not particularly healthy for us, and are literally the means by which people are led astray. And, while I can agree with this up to a point, especially when one doesn't live the life of truth, emotions are by no means inherently evil, so long as they're lived within a life of context (truth). And yes, people can be unduly influenced through their emotions. It happens all the time.

So in many respects Roy's continued assault against emotionalism, primarily the forcefulness of the bully, and the seductiveness of the temptress (representations of love and hate), portray the United States government and its all out campaign against the American Indian who, were nothing but wild savages (emotionalism), compared to us civilized folk (rationalism). Whereas if you were to read the chapter, you might be able to draw that comparison.


What do you mean by fictional? In the sense that I've blended in mythology as a means to express certain events which actually took place? Or, that I made the whole thing up to make it sound like a myth, to express a certain reality about Roy? For I can assure you I haven't fabricated any of it, and only chose to express it according to Dionysus, because this is what I had actually discovered. This is how I think the book should ultimately be judged anyway if, in fact that were ever to happen. While it also goes a long way to show why I've compared Roy Masters to King Minos of Crete.


Well I appreciate the compliment, but I was merely trying to find the best way to present it, and make it understandable for others as well.

As for the meditation, I think we should try dealing with that in another thread, Okay? Thanks!
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Old 04-26-2004, 03:19 PM
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Hi Iacchus,

There were so many unusual details about Roy Masters and the FHU that it almost read like a Stephen King novel. I admit that I have been unable to read your on-line book in its entirety as I do not have a computer at home. I'm limited to the minimal amount of time I can spend on the internet at work when I'm not too busy. When I say unusual, I'm referring to your references to the wasps and many other things that seem to escape my memory at the moment. It was, shall I say, "scary" for want of a better word. I know people say that real life is stranger than fiction and I guess it's true. Are the details about the wasps true?
Do you mean the part about the White-Anglo-Saxon-Protestants and its reference to Revelation 9? Or, the part where I burned the six or seven books I had of Roy Masters and poured the ashes out in back of the house where a yellow jackets nest popped up? Yes, that actually happened.

You also need to understand that a wasp isn't altogether different from a honey bee, and in that sense the honey bee would represent The Church, in the truest sense, and the wasp that which is false and hence maligned.
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Old 06-23-2004, 09:24 PM
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Iacchus,

I've heard Roy Masters advising people on his radio program not to pray when they mention that they do pray along with the meditation or during meditation. He'll say something like "No, don't do that." He seems to be against it and seems to think that it will take away from the effects of the meditation practice. It's like he's saying that prayer is unneccessary if you meditate. Do you have any explanation or anything to say about it?
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Old 06-23-2004, 09:42 PM
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This used to be my favorite chapter in the Bible by the way ...

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1 Take heed that ye do not your alms before men, to be seen of them: otherwise ye have no reward of your Father which is in heaven.

2 Therefore when thou doest thine alms, do not sound a trumpet before thee, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, that they may have glory of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.

3 But when thou doest alms, let not thy left hand know what thy right hand doeth:

4 That thine alms may be in secret: and thy Father which seeth in secret himself shall reward thee openly.

5 And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.

6 But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.

7 But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.

8 Be not ye therefore like unto them: for your Father knoweth what things ye have need of, before ye ask him. ~ Matthew 6:1-8
Of course it goes so far as to quote the Lord's Prayer in the very next verse, however, taking into account what's already been said, I doubt that it has anything to do with merely reciting the words.
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Old 07-13-2004, 01:17 PM
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I listened to a portion of Roy's program last night and I heard him mention that there were only 10 people at his church last Sunday. He went on to say that the reason was because he encourages people "not to need him" anymore. He also said that he would like to have a bigger platform to reach out to people and he added that someone would probably want to kill him. He then went on to say that it would be all right with him, "They can have my old carcass." Would you care to comment on this?
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Old 07-13-2004, 03:47 PM
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You can kill the body but you can't kill the soul, right? Either that or he's tired of putting up with all the BS, or both?
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Old 07-13-2004, 04:23 PM
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You can kill the body but you can't kill the soul, right? Either that or he's tired of putting up with all the BS, or both?
A woman called in towards the end of the program and told Roy that she had just been recently diagnosed as bipolar and that she knew that Roy had a tape available about it. She had been told that once she started taking medicine, she would have to continue taking it for the rest of her life. Roy said that the medicine might cover up some of the symptoms but it wouldn't get to the root of the problem.
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Old 07-13-2004, 05:29 PM
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Yes, this is what they told me when I had to start taking lithium for the same reason. However, do I take it anymore? No. Do I need to? No. Do I give two hoots about what they were trying to tell me? Not really. Like Roy says, the drugs just serve to mask over the symptoms without getting at the root cause.

It would be sort of like going to the doctor because you're a bee keeper and continually get stung by bees. So, he gives you some medication to remedy the stings. However, if you wore your protective gear in the first place, maybe you wouldn't get stung nearly so often in the second place. This is the problem, and no matter how much medication the doctor continues to give you, it's still not going to prevent you from getting stung. However, if you did what was necesary to prevent the bee stings, then there would be no need for the medication. So it's important that we learn how to get at the root cause of our problems.
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Old 07-13-2004, 06:06 PM
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Yes, this is what they told me when I had to start taking lithium for the same reason. However, do I take it anymore? No. Do I need to? No. Do I give two hoots about what they were trying to tell me? Not really. Like Roy says, the drugs just serve to mask over the symptoms without getting at the root cause.

It would be sort of like going to the doctor because you're a bee keeper and continually get stung by bees. So, he gives you some medication to remedy the stings. However, if you wore your protective gear in the first place, maybe you wouldn't get stung nearly so often in the second place. This is the problem, and no matter how much medication the doctor continues to give you, it's still not going to prevent you from getting stung. However, if you did what was necesary to prevent the bee stings, then there would be no need for the medication. So it's important that we learn how to get at the root cause of our problems.

Lithium has to be very closely monitored. I've heard it has a very calming effect and leaves you feeling very tranquil. I suppose calm and tranquil mean the same thing. I have also heard Roy say in a previous broadcast that he was actually able to reverse his own diabetes. However, I'm not sure if it was Type 1 Diabetes (insulin-dependent) or Type 2 Diabetes (non-insulin-dependent, pills only).
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Old 07-15-2004, 03:12 PM
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I have also heard Roy say in a previous broadcast that he was actually able to reverse his own diabetes. However, I'm not sure if it was Type 1 Diabetes (insulin-dependent) or Type 2 Diabetes (non-insulin-dependent, pills only).
I've actually had something similar happen to me. I was starting to have all these symptoms related to it and didn't know what was wrong, until I finally realized it, and began to modify my diet (cut down on carbohydrates and eat more meat) and started taking chromium GTF (Glucose Tolerance Factor, which is bound in yeast) and my symptoms all but went away. And, by the time that I finally got to the doctor to check me out, they couldn't find anything wrong with me.

Also, if somebody decides they want to try this themself, they should read the label on the chromium first, which explains you should consult your doctor if you're taking insulin, otherwise you can suffer some very adverse reactions and seriously mess yourself up.

A recommended book which refers to the proper diet and chromium GTF would be, Healthy for Life, by Dr.'s Richard F. Heller and Rachel F. Heller. Available through either Amazon.com or Barnes and Nobles.
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Old 07-16-2004, 02:56 PM
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I caught a little of Roy's radio program and sometimes he's a little curt and cuts people off too soon. He was talking to a man and he wasn't really taking up very much of Roy's time but he started relating something that didn't sound as if it was going to go on endlessly but Roy said, "I don't know where this is leading. We're just chatting now." I've seen Roy go off on tangents himself about something that's really not related to the program but then again, it's his program so I guess he can do what he wants. He just comes off as rude at times.
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Old 07-16-2004, 08:31 PM
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The thing about Roy Masters is that if you can adopt the ability of always checking your backside, while maintaining the ability to appear to be looking ahead -- that is, until you've got "the bugger" right where you want him -- you and he would get along fine. Why? Because he's a paranoid. It's also like you have to develop the ability to emulate what Roy wants to hear (and that's the key), without being a suckup. A lot of useless mental gymnastics as far as I'm concerned.
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Old 08-16-2004, 01:44 PM
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Roy talked about why we overeat on his program last night. He said that we should chew slowly, like a cow chewing its cud, and not to look forward to the next bite. He also recommended his book "Eat No Evil" and his lecture from last Sunday (August 8th) about the "Nature of Longing." He also said that we shouldn't consume more than 30 grams of carbohydrates per day (which is Atkins recommendation). He seems to be an advocate of the Atkins diet and said that we should eat more proteins and fats and try to avoid eating too much sugar and carbohydrates.
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Old 08-22-2004, 07:44 AM
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What's the point of eating if you don't get a sense of enjoyment out of it? Or, for that matter, what's the point of doing anything if you don't enjoy doing it? Meow ...
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Old 08-22-2004, 04:05 PM
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What's the point of eating if you don't get a sense of enjoyment out of it?

Perhaps to stay more healthy.
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Old 08-22-2004, 09:00 PM
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Perhaps to stay more healthy.
Yet I understand that the French eat rather healthily, as lavash as their diet is. Has something to do with the high amount of chromium intake from what I understand.
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Old 12-23-2004, 08:34 PM
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I haven't visited the FHU website for awhile but they have recently updated their website with a new look. I don't know if the Statement of Belief is new to the website but I haven't seen it before. There are three pages as you will note at the bottom of the page (it says next page):

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Old 12-23-2004, 11:49 PM
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I haven't visited the FHU website for awhile but they have recently updated their website with a new look. I don't know if the Statement of Belief is new to the website but I haven't seen it before. There are three pages as you will note at the bottom of the page (it says next page):

Statement of Belief
Yeah, that is kind of intetesting, that's the first time I've seen it too.
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