Does anyone realize that the present has always been here, even since the beginning of time? And no doubt before? Since the past is merely that which was once the present? Which, has no doubt always been, since it's not contingent upon time and space in order to be? So could it be that time and space was born of the universal Presence of Mind which, has always been here, yet not so visible to see?

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So when the body dies, and consciousness departs, where do "we" go? ... Off to define another "reality" perhaps?

That's why I say that Y'shua (Jesus) is a living spirit who never was and always is.

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Once you find your way, you're there.

Of course that isn't to say we don't have the whole physical universe to contend with which, we can't help but identify with, that is until we die.

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So when the body dies, and consciousness departs, where do "we" go? ... Off to define another "reality" perhaps?