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Old 06-29-2004, 09:11 PM
Default Adela Cathcart by George MacDonald

I have read some of George MacDonald's (Scottish novelist & poet) works. I found Swedenborg's name mentioned in his book, Adela Cathcart, Volume 2, Chapter 2 (The Curate and His Wife).

"So that, if I was in hell for my sins, it was at least not one of Swedenborg's hells." And then the text goes on to introduce a beautiful sonnet. You can easily find the passage that mentions Swedenborg by using the Edit/Find feature (as I'm sure you're aware).

http://www.johannesen.com/AdelaCathcartII.htm

Note: The passage about Swedenborg is in Volume 2. If you would like to view all three volumes of Adela Cathcart, click on Return to OnlineGMD and all three volumes are listed as well as other works of George MacDonald.

Last edited by Pegasus : 10-27-2004 at 12:13 AM. Reason: error
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Old 06-29-2004, 09:25 PM
Default Swedenborg's Hell

While I'm on the subject of Swedenborg's hell, I found another reference to Swedenborg in another book by George MacDonald, Robert Falconer: "The noisome vapours were fit for any of Swedenborg's hells. There were few sounds but the very quiet seemed infernal."

http://www.classicreader.com/read.p...id.1171/sec.61/

There is a lot of material about Swedenborg in the forum and in "The Advent of Dionysus". I wondered why George MacDonald, the Scottish novelist and poet I mentioned in a previous post, chose to include references to Swedenborg's hell in two of his books, Robert Falconer and Adela Cathcart. There may be other references that I'm unaware of as I'm not familiar with all of George MacDonald's books. It's possible that Swedenborg's book, "Heaven and Hell" might have been talked about a lot in literary circles during the time that George MacDonald was writing these books although Swedenborg died about 52 years before MacDonald was even born (Swedenborg died in 1772 and MacDonald was born in 1824). Is their something different about Swedenborg's hell? I have heard that Swedenborg's hell doesn't have a "Satan."

Last edited by Pegasus : 07-02-2004 at 03:31 PM. Reason: Correction
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Old 07-02-2004, 07:10 PM
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From the JREF Forums thread, Why did God create the tree of knowledge? ... Just to give you the general idea anyway.

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Originally posted by Ipecac

How can an omniscient, omnipotent being have an "arch-enemy"? How could any lesser being be a threat to mankind and an affront to God's sovereignty unless God allows it?
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Originally posted by Iacchus

Lucifer is the opportunist. Satan is the liar. And the Devil is outright evil. And together what do you get? LSD!!!

These three representations by the way, represent the three degrees of rebellion of man towards God. In fact when Jesus states, "There is none good but God," it seems to imply that man is nothing but evil. In fact there are two degrees of hells associated with this, the first or "upper hell," which is called Satan, and is associated falsity, and the second or "lower hell," which is called the Devil, and is associated with evil. While here, there is no formal entity associated with either Satan or the Devil, just the two degrees of hell from which influx flows into the spiritual world. As for Lucifer, I believe? he represents the opportunist who dwells in the world of spirits, which is a state comparable to the natural world (our world) that exists between heaven and hell. And here, I believe there's an association between Lucifer and the construction of the Tower of Babel.

So, ever wonder why Jesus blesses Peter on the one hand, and then turns around and calls Him Satan? Because it was the lie (in Peter) that was addressing Jesus at this time. Which is exactly what happened when Peter denies Christ three times (before the cock crows) and outright lied about their relationship. Which, is what happened to begin with, when Peter says he would never deny Christ.

Anyway, if you look at the Bible in this way, it might have more meaning. For more information here, I would refer you to Emanuel Swedenborg's book, Heaven and Hell.
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So when the body dies, and consciousness departs, where do "we" go? ... Off to define another "reality" perhaps?
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