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Old 07-03-2004, 03:27 AM
Default Greek Mythology Memories of Preflood World?

Some have suggested tht the Greek gods and demigods were derived from preflood memories of a world in which angels begat hybrid children called nephilim by having relationships with women.

Such concepts of hybrids such as Hercules are said to have been based on such nephilim memories and the constant desire of the gods for sexual union with humans is said to have been derived from the angelic preflood behavior.
The similarities are indeed very close.
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Old 07-03-2004, 01:30 PM

If, as I said in the JREF Forums thread, Why did God create the tree of knowledge? that angels were descendants from the human race, then all these things are merely representations between humanity and the life hereafter. If, in fact there is an afterlife, then there has to be some sort of relationship which illustrates this, and this is what I believe the Greek myths (in particular) entail. So here we have God on the one hand, and mankind on the other and, once we pass on we have the angels which, act as intermediaries between God and man. Indeed, if we didn't know better, we might easily misconstrue an angel for being God. Which isn't too far off really, if you understand that angels act on our behalf and indeed are portrayed as various representations of God. In fact according to Swedenborg, this was how God manifested Himself to the ancients in the old days (which might explain why God seems to take on certain human attributes when in fact maybe we think He shouldn't). While here is one example that clearly illustrates this ...

6 And I heard as it were the voice of a great multitude, and as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of mighty thunderings, saying, Alleluia: for the Lord God omnipotent reigneth.

7 Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to him: for the marriage of the Lamb is come, and his wife hath made herself ready.

8 And to her was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white: for the fine linen is the righteousness of saints.

9 And he saith unto me, Write, Blessed are they which are called unto the marriage supper of the Lamb. And he saith unto me, These are the true sayings of God.

10 And I fell at his feet to worship him. And he said unto me, See thou do it not: I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren that have the testimony of Jesus: worship God: for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy. ~ Revelation 19:6-10
So when the body dies, and consciousness departs, where do "we" go? ... Off to define another "reality" perhaps?
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Old 07-07-2004, 12:35 PM

What scripural grounds are there to believe that angels descended from the human race? After all. they are described as being present during the creation of the earth before man was created.

Job. 38{
4 "Where were you when I laid the earth's foundation?
Tell me, if you understand.
5 Who marked off its dimensions? Surely you know!
Who stretched a measuring line across it?
6 On what were its footings set,
or who laid its cornerstone-
7 while the morning stars sang together
and all the angels [1] shouted for joy?
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Old 07-08-2004, 12:04 PM

Well, you kind of got me stumped there, regarding this "in the beginning stuff." It stands to reason that the angels should be there or, at least this was the impression I and, most other people have probably had. And yet the only references in Genesis that might suggest this are Genesis 1:26 and 3:22, where God refers to Himself in the pluralistic sense, and Genesis 3:24 where the Cherubims are placed to stand guard over the Garden of Eden. Also, the notion of a talking Serpent suggests an angelic being (albeit fallen) as well. However, the notion of a pluralistic God might suggest He had a feminine counterpart (God is both male and female), as evidenced by some of the early Hebrew texts which claim God had a mistress. As reflected in Genesis 1:27 ... "So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them." As for the Cherubims and the Serpent, although they might allude to angelic beings, it isn't any more specific than that and it's hard to say. So the evidence would seem to be a little scant at this point.

Then there's the notion of Lucifer and the rebellion of his infernal crew which, as far as I know, is only mentioned in Isaiah 14. And if that's the case, I believe it's in reference to the fall of Babylon, either the fall of the Tower of Babel or, the fall of Babylon at the time of Nebuchadnezzar, when the Jews were released from captivity. In which case it has nothing to do with angels at the foundation of the earth.

Am afraid I'm going to have to back to you on this one though. Oh, and by the way, have you seen Swedenborg's Vision of Marital Love?
So when the body dies, and consciousness departs, where do "we" go? ... Off to define another "reality" perhaps?
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