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Old 07-04-2004, 05:07 PM
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I will like to hear your viewpoints about this quotation from a book I read:

"Theirs is the misconception that you will not see the Kingdom until you die and go to heaven; that is, IF you go to heaven. This is a false doctrine, according to YAHWEH, for there is no place called heaven and neither is there a place called hell. Your "heaven" or "hell" are right here on Earth. You create your own situation, and you are either blessed or you suffer for the consequences – right here on Earth in each lifetime.

The Kingdom has already been established, from the beginning, on Orion (the place miscalled heaven). The Kingdom of Yahweh paradise on Earth, however, is not to be confused with some "heavenly" place not of this world. It is a physical, literal Kingdom, or government, which will be ruled by Yahweh's people, or Ambassadors, as we call them, under the leadership of the King of Kings and his bride, the Holy Spirit (as we have stated, the Holy Spirit has always been a woman). The Kingdom is a government divinely inspired by Yahweh, foretold by the Prophets, and inherited by those who believe in Yahweh, His Original Laws and commandments and who obey accordingly."


I am not any expert, but I do think this is a book with trustworthiness, since it refers to other sources in the Bible ,etc. several places.
It is a free online book, and can be read here:

http://www.yahwehsnewkingdom.com/yahweh-book.htm

The quotation was from Chapter 14; "THE KINGDOM RE-ESTABLISHED".

If you don't like to read long texts on a computer screen, a PC speak program may be helpful.
Here is a free speak program that will read up the text for you:

http://www.naturalreaders.com/download.htm

This speak program works very well,- IMO.

If this book is right or wrong, I can't tell, but IMO,- it is a book with more trustworthiness than many other books.
But all and everyone have different opinions, of course.

I am looking forward to hear your viewpoints about this.

Regards,
-Human
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Old 07-04-2004, 10:44 PM
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20 And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation:

21 Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you. ~ Luke 17:20-21
Well this clearly gives us an indication where we should begin our search. In other words the kingdom of heaven (God) is something which is tied to us internally or, as some might suggest, in the spiritual sense.

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1 After this I looked, and, behold, a door was opened in heaven: and the first voice which I heard was as it were of a trumpet talking with me; which said, Come up hither, and I will shew thee things which must be hereafter.

2 And immediately I was in the spirit: and, behold, a throne was set in heaven, and one sat on the throne.

3 And he that sat was to look upon like a jasper and a sardine stone: and there was a rainbow round about the throne, in sight like unto an emerald.

4 And round about the throne were four and twenty seats: and upon the seats I saw four and twenty elders sitting, clothed in white raiment; and they had on their heads crowns of gold. ~ Revelation 4:1-4
This is to give you an idea of those who have traversed into the spiritual realm (dimension), which is referred to throughout the Bible as being in the spirit, where the individual was taken up into heaven and had visions of the spiritual world. So clearly this establishes that a spiritual world does exist and, that indeed, heaven is very much a part of it.

Also, right off hand, there's the reference to Jacob on his death bed and giving blessings to sons, and prior to giving up the ghost (soul) he says, "I have waited for thy salvation, O LORD." (Genesis 49:18) Which to me, suggests he was waiting to die and go to heaven.

While here's one other reference that speaks of the resurrection and what it entails when we die ...

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30 For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven.

31 But as touching the resurrection of the dead, have ye not read that which was spoken unto you by God, saying,

32 I am the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob? God is not the God of the dead, but of the living. ~ Matthew 22:30-32
So, based upon all of this, I honestly don't see how it can apply to the book you're referring to here.
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So when the body dies, and consciousness departs, where do "we" go? ... Off to define another "reality" perhaps?

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Old 07-05-2004, 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Iacchus32


So, based upon all of this, I honestly don't see how it can apply to the book you're referring to here.

I think the book I read was writed by someone who think that the Bible is edited in connection with translating, etc.
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Old 07-05-2004, 07:26 PM
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In other words the Bible is erroneous and there's no such thing as a spiritual world including a heaven, right? I don't know, it doesn't make a lot of sense to me? Not according to what the Bible says anyway. Of course it does help if you have the means by which to validate it which, I do.
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So when the body dies, and consciousness departs, where do "we" go? ... Off to define another "reality" perhaps?
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