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Old 09-13-2004, 06:03 AM
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Imaginary in what sense? In that it's basically the same stuff dreams are made of? Yes, that would essentially be correct, in that it's filtered through our imagination.
Stuff? Dreams are made of stuff? Is that what keeps leaving the damp spot on my bed? What kind of "stuff" is it? Will I need some kind of special laundry soap?

Really, Iacchy, dreams are essentially imagination. They are just very unstructured imagination. The fact that I am occasionally able to manipulate my dreams into the same kinds of things I imagine is evidence for this.

But really, this fits right in with what I said about Heaven and Hell being made out of imagination. It looks like you sort of agree.
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No, it depends on what you're most closely afiliated with in heaven or hell.
So are you now saying that Heaven and Hell are not whatever you imagine them to be, but that they have predetermined things in them with which you are affiliated or not affiliated? I really wish you'd get your story straight here. Do Heaven and Hell have some definate charicteristics or not? If so, what are those characteristics?
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Both heaven and hell are quite diverse places, in fact more diverse than you can possibly imagine. So it's through what we think, say and do in this world, that we establish our little niche in heaven (or hell), while in accord with the specific society we are most closely afiliated with. And yes, societies do exist in heaven.
But not more diverse than you can imagine? How do you know all this? Have you ever been to either one? Or did you just imagine it?
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Not necessarily, I haven't had the visionary types for quite some time now. Primarily because I haven't been at odds with the forces at play, and everything hasn't been set up in high contrast.
What are you talking about? Almost all dreams are the "visionary" types, at least all of mine include pictures. Or do you mean they foretell the future? If so, please give us some predictions from these dreams (of things that haven't happened yet, of course) so that we can see if they are indeed portentious.
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Old 09-13-2004, 11:53 AM
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Stuff? Dreams are made of stuff? Is that what keeps leaving the damp spot on my bed? What kind of "stuff" is it? Will I need some kind of special laundry soap?
Sounds to me like this is something you need to work out for yourself.

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Really, Iacchy, dreams are essentially imagination. They are just very unstructured imagination. The fact that I am occasionally able to manipulate my dreams into the same kinds of things I imagine is evidence for this.
Yes, it seems I suggested something about being subjected to our imagination via our dreams in another thread.

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But really, this fits right in with what I said about Heaven and Hell being made out of imagination. It looks like you sort of agree.
No, I'm just merely saying our imagination originates from the same place, from the influx of heaven and hell that is.

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So are you now saying that Heaven and Hell are not whatever you imagine them to be, but that they have predetermined things in them with which you are affiliated or not affiliated? I really wish you'd get your story straight here. Do Heaven and Hell have some definate charicteristics or not? If so, what are those characteristics?
Of course they do. It has more to do with the notion of "birds of a feather flock together," albeit in a much more diversified sense ... which, is determined by Ruling Love of course. Otherwise there would be no way to differentiate, even in heaven.

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But not more diverse than you can imagine? How do you know all this? Have you ever been to either one? Or did you just imagine it?
Yes, and would you go so far as to say your belief in this world was real?

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What are you talking about? Almost all dreams are the "visionary" types, at least all of mine include pictures. Or do you mean they foretell the future? If so, please give us some predictions from these dreams (of things that haven't happened yet, of course) so that we can see if they are indeed portentious.
Yes, indeed, portentious was the word that you used.
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Old 09-24-2004, 08:29 AM
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Pegasus,- I forgot to add that the quality of the movie may be better if you load it as 112K or 256K speed. Not sure what speed you selected.

If you choose 256K, the best result is if the computer has fast Internet connection, i.e. a DSL connection.
If the Internet connection is more slow, i.e. a cable connection, it may happen that the movie sometimes stops in few seconds before it continues again. (This happens because the computer is not able to load all the data at once in that speed).

http://christiananswers.net/godstory/

At that link, you may choose audio listening instead of video listenings, since audio listenings is more fast to load, and very good audio quality.

And btw,- I posted in the forum in case more members is interested.
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Old 09-24-2004, 04:35 PM
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Pegasus,- I forgot to add that the quality of the movie may be better if you load it as 112K or 256K speed. Not sure what speed you selected.

If you choose 256K, the best result is if the computer has fast Internet connection, i.e. a DSL connection.
If the Internet connection is more slow, i.e. a cable connection, it may happen that the movie sometimes stops in few seconds before it continues again. (This happens because the computer is not able to load all the data at once in that speed).

http://christiananswers.net/godstory/

At that link, you may choose audio listening instead of video listenings, since audio listenings is more fast to load, and very good audio quality.


And btw,- I posted in the forum in case more members is interested.

I think I chose 256K although I know absolutely nothing about it. I thought it looked like a good choice (more is better)? I'm not up on all this advanced technology and computer jargon. It sounds like you are, though. Sometimes I think I'd be perfectly happy if I was locked into the 20's and 30's. I'll change that to 40's because I liked the clothes back then. Perhaps beyond that--I adored Doris Day's wardrobe in "Pillow Talk" but I guess a lot of men don't pay very close attention to clothing styles.
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