Split from the thread, Determinism vs Free Will ...


BTW, since I can't post in that thread, thanks for the thread on Eccles's books. I took a stroll to the library and checked out three of them, and one other (they are at my office now, or I would tell you that author too). A couple of thoughts--one...three books, three completely different areas of the Library of Congress system. Apparently it is not known if this is psychology, philosophy, or metaphysics. A first glance at the most recent book confirms this. Second thing...man, there are meters and meters of bookshelf space devoted to the topic of consciousness, in each of the three areas of the library. Too bad you are opposed to reading what others have to say on the issue. Third thing...the other book I got was very eye-opening. I am already more impressed by this other author than by Eccles, by a long shot. (yes, I will explain why when I post about it.)

One of the books contains not just Eccles, but others responding to him--an edited collection, in fact. It will be interesting to see the give and take.

(oh...and the figures in the Eccles book are interesting...very detailed pictures of the structures and actions of the synapse, detailed schematic diagrams of nerve networks...and a strangely simple flowchart detailing a connection between the physical and mental worlds, without any mechanism there to explain the connection. My quick impression, subject to change of course, is that this is the pattern of the book; long on physiological detail, long on hypotheticals about a mentalistic self, extremely short on how the two are alleged to interact. I actually spent half an hour trying to find out how that diagram claimed the mental and physical interacted, and there was nothing in the chapter that suggested any mechanism whatsoever. I can't believe Eccles would do that...so time to read more thoroughly. I hope to be proven wrong, because I respect his earlier work, but I think it quite possible that the review I linked earlier is correct, and that Eccles allowed his preconceived beliefs to influence his perception of the data.)

In case anyone wants to know why this is here, it's because I botched up the thread, Determ. vs Free Will ... Iacchus' Ignorance, after I split it from the Determinism vs Free Will thread and sent it down to the Iacchus' Ignorance forum. I had no problem doing that whatsover, and in fact was surprised how easy it gone. But then I decided it would be nice to accommodate Mr. Cuttlefish, after reviewing his little gem here a second time, by adding a new forum called Book Reviews, and adding a copy of this there, so then he could voice his ideas and let them be known.

Well, I figured the best way to go about it would be to copy the whole thread over (and leave the original thread intact) and then extract this post which, is what I thought I was doing, and delete the remnant of the thread. Unfortunately, instead of copying the thread, I apparently chose the "move" option instead, and the rest is history I'm afraid.

Oh, one thing I did notice, was that the last three digits of the post count on the home page (at the bottom), were set at 666. Now we know this is not the first time this has happened with Mr. Cuttlefish, which is curious, because in opting to allow him to express his views (the evidence of which we have here), the rest of the thread got cut off, even goozleberry's broadway debut I'm afraid ... Sorry about that folks.

Now isn't that strange?

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So when the body dies, and consciousness departs, where do "we" go? ... Off to define another "reality" perhaps?

I'm sorry--I don't much care about my own posts, but are you saying there is no longer a copy of Gooze's play anywhere?

As for the 666....who really cares? Maybe I am just not thinking well today...did you do something else to the thread because it was 666? I have a hard time believing that, so I will assume you did not, until or unless you say otherwise...I just don't know why you mention it at all.

Not unless she made a copy of it? Of course it could have been on another thread (I didn't take the time to look), but I'm pretty sure it was on this one.

Well, I couldn't help but notice it after I thought I copied the thread over, and kept wondering what the heck happened to the fifteen or so posts that were just there? And, if you're not paying attention it's really easy to mess up. By default it will "move" the thread rather than copy it if you don't specifically ask it to do so. In fact if you take a look at the thread number here (t401), you'll notice it's the same thread that I refer to on the page I split it from (put your cursor over the link). So it's obvious I moved it instead of copying it.

You'll also notice that I moved the thread back here to the Iacchus Ignorance forum, and then made another copy and moved it back to the Book Reviews forum ... while editing out the two posts referring to what happened, because I didn't think it was a necessary part of the review.

So, does that make any sense? Thanks!

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So when the body dies, and consciousness departs, where do "we" go? ... Off to define another "reality" perhaps?

What? He hosed my PLAY!

Dang it! That play represents a classic of western literature, as well as the fruit of my sweat and toil. Plus it's fifteen minutes of my life I'll never get back.

Hey, you can always reminisce ... There was also some classic Iacchian stuff on there too you know, you know the part about dust in the wind? In fact I was thinking about splitting that off and starting a new thread, since it wasn't just about "Iacchus' Ignorance."

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So when the body dies, and consciousness departs, where do "we" go? ... Off to define another "reality" perhaps?